Comments on: Perfecting the SEOmoz Linkscape tool – My feedback

By: richardbaxterseo

richardbaxterseo — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:03:35 +0000

Haha – I’ll bet the last thing you get is an SEO report by email if you give them an address

By: Michael VanDeMar

Michael VanDeMar — Sat, 23 Jan 2010 02:14:54 +0000

Richard, I know this is an old post & comment, but I just tried SEOeng (well, entered a url anyways), and while I was presented with the email box again, it wasn’t an actual error that I got back… just a second opportunity to enter in my email address (and the capctha, and the button) in case I wanted to be notified once the report was done running. Above that it stated: “This Website is currently being analyzed by SEOENG®. Check back soon.”

So, we’ll see. I did not enter in an email though.

By: richardbaxterseo

richardbaxterseo — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:09:33 +0000

Interesting – SEOeng looks like it doesn’t work. It claims an optional email address but returns an error because you didn’t enter an email address. Anyone else smell a rat?

By: John Stone

John Stone — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:15:05 +0000

I would go even further than Dee to say that SEOMoz should really think about what they are attempting to accomplish…SEOENG is already (and has been) the premiere SEO Tool (do you call a Search Engine a tool?), and already does way more than all of these things….

http://www.johndoro.com/linkscapes-million-dollar-gamble.htm

By: Dee Ford

Dee Ford — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:35:49 +0000

Linkscape reminds me somewhat of SEOeng (http://www.seoeng.com). I think that Rand and his team would do well to incorporate some of SEOeng’s Link Flow Analysis, Internal Link Flow, and Link Loss due to poor internal linking.

Definitely adding on-site link analysis would be great.

By: richardbaxterseo

richardbaxterseo — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:02:00 +0000

@Patrick LOL – yeah your site was one of the SEO blogs that rolled out of my head when I needed to make a screenshot! Obviously you smashed my fledgling little site and barely broke a sweat… Give me a shout if you want the data

By: richardbaxterseo

richardbaxterseo — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:53:42 +0000

Hi there Doug, thanks for your comments. Of course I won’t “moderate” them. I will ask you though, to only add comments that contribute positively in the future.

Perhaps I wasn’t clear in the wording of my post? I haven’t actually endorsed the product yet, I’ve just stated that I am looking forward to watching it develop as a powerful SEO tool, which I hope it does! Just to clarify, This post isn’t about “the issue surrounding this tool”, and doesn’t imply that I am or am not using it in my day job.

I am interested in seeing SEOmoz develop it, and in particular, how some of their quality metrics mimic Google’s results. It’s the Moz-metrics and algorithm design that I find most interesting.

Must drop by your forum sometime – hope all’s well over there!

By: Doug Heil

Doug Heil — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:33:06 +0000

Sorry; this is just funny stuff. Period. Any SEO who thinks for one second they are getting some great stuff for using the tool of another SEO, is very delusional. Sorry. Why don’t you all read what Michael Martinez says and even also what Aaron Wall says about it? The issue surrounding this tool is not the value of it, or the lack of value of it, but how a prominent person striving to be some kind of industry leader, deceived the entire SEO industry…. and did so because of his investors. Matter of fact; the way he says sites can block this tool is bogus and deceiving and does not block the data of what the tool is about… links. The entire fiasco is bad stuff. Anyone praising OR using this tool is foolish and has no idea how to do their own thinking about what links are relevant TO GOOGLE and what links are not.

Only newbies and those with not much a clue would resort to a tool of someone else’s opinion, other than the opinion of Google.

Is this going to be moderated and not published? I guess I shall see shortly, huh?

By: Patrick Altoft

Patrick Altoft — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:42:27 +0000

Thanks for the screenshot, saves me running a report

By: randfish

randfish — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:35:51 +0000

I’ve actually never seen the space we rent for the project, and we do a lot of computing using cloud services, too, so that might not be as exciting But yeah – there’s definitely a ton of interesting work that went into the project, and I know Nick and Ben are putting together some academic papers, so we’ll try to share those as they’re ready.

Of course – anytime you’re in Seattle, there’s an open invitation to swing by the mozPlex and get the nickel tour

By: richardbaxterseo

richardbaxterseo — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:56:05 +0000

Hi Rand, thanks for stopping by! Really appreciate your response. By the way, if you get time, a whistlestop tour around the Linkscape algo would be cool. You must be processing some serious data over there. I remember when the Easynews team created a video tour of their new server room, which I found fascinating. Maybe there's inspiration for something similar when the dust settles?

By: randfish

randfish — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:01:41 +0000

Richard – thanks a ton for the feedback. We’ve got a lot of these already on our internal to-do list, but I’m forwarding your post over to our devs so they can put the rest into our future upgrade requests. I can’t guarantee that all of these will make it in, but we’ll definitely weigh each one against the other requests that have been made and get them somewhere in the schedule.

Just FYI – right now, a big index update (and some small improvements to the front-end) are taking place ~Halloween-early November. Our next iteration is probably with the December crawl update, but depending on the task list, might wait until January (as we’ll need to test internally, and have some other projects launching, including the toolbar for Linkscape in December).

Finally – regarding the crawl schedule stuff – give the index a try in November when we expect to nearly double. I still don’t think we’ll go extremely deep or follow links from low mozRank pages, but we are going to try biasing the crawl a bit more towards higher domain mozRank (DmR) sites so we can crawl those much deeper, possibly by the December or January update.